The algorithm for girls who you’re not sure about

Online, I see a lot of young guys asking about chicks who seem uncertain, uncommitted, etc., and the guy asks what he should do. The particular guy who inspires me to record the algorithm said, “if a girl that ignored you all of a sudden started texting” and then “so if a girl that ignores you all of a sudden starts texting you, how would you handel it?” Evidently this guy is too stupid to have learned how to punctuate and capitalize his sentences in school, but we’ll ignore that and instead focus on what to do.

Follow these simple steps, particularly if you’re young and uncertain:

  1. Invite her over for a movie and drinks.
  2. When she comes over, hang out with her for about an hour. Start the movie.
  3. Try to put your penis in her. If you succeed, you succeed. If you don’t, you know she’s a waste of time, unless she’s moving in that direction and making forward progress.

If she doesn’t show up, her text out of the blue doesn’t matter. She’s fishing for attention and can be safely ignored. If you keep giving her digital attention, you are not using your attention effectively. If she comes over to watch a movie, then she might be for real.

Follow the “moving to the stage where my penis is inside her” algorithm and you can’t go wrong. Anything that is not a “yes” is a “no.” And then you should find/approach more chicks.

Older and more experienced guys may modify the algorithm. I usually invite the chick in a situation like this to get a drink, as I’m not in high school or college. Does she not agree to get a drink at a specific time or place? Then I go hit on new chicks. Does she agree and not show up? Then I go hit on new chicks. Does she agree, show up, but is not interested in me sexually? Then I go hit on new chicks.

I think you get the idea. It is usually easier and better to meet new chicks than to give chase to uninterested chicks. If you like to gamble or have some of the troll in you, you can send something like this to chicks who don’t show up or are on the fence (though I have been thinking about other paths recently).

Does she come over, and then I put my penis inside her? Okay, then we’ve gotten somewhere. If she is making forward progress towards sex, that is also okay. But I divide chicks into two categories… chicks who I’m attracted to and want to f**k and have a shot at f**king, and all other chicks. If she doesn’t show up, if she’s not sexually engaged with me, etc., then she is in category #2 and I can safely ignore her. If she is in category #1, then the algorithm applies. The algorithm is good at dividing chicks between those who I might actually f**k and those who are looking for ego boosts, attention, flattery, etc.

You may notice that “then I go hit on new chicks” is prominent. That’s because a single guy is as good as the next chicks in his pipeline. Work that pipeline and know that most chicks you know are likely to say no. You are hunting for the yes.

She may be testing guys, she may not be interested in you, she may be searching for attention… you may also find that, if you’re f**king another chick, she suddenly becomes a lot more interested. Pre-selection and social proof. If you are waiting around and feeding her lots of unearned attention… she may become less interested.

Be extreme

I think every player has something “extreme” about him. Some examples being…

* Extremely good looking.

* Extremely charismatic.

* Extremely wealthy.

* Extremely obsessed with and good at cold approach (this is the Krauser and Tom Torero approach).

* Extreme artistic/creative skill.

In my case, I’m pretty extreme about diet and gym. I’m not very extreme about cold-approach pickup. I’m also pretty extreme about not wasting time on social media, TV, etc. It means I miss out on the sports/TV chat. It means people don’t get why I’m reading all the time. But my extreme habits are why I lead a very different life than most of my colleagues and peers.

Rolando points me to another example of this basic idea.

High Performance Psychology

The applicability of “The best books on High Performance Psychology” on game and chicks is obvious. I’m more a fan of the article than the specific books discussed. The Practice of Practice is a good book for guys looking to understand how to take small consistent steps towards improvement. Almost no one sees HUGE gains in one day or one week of new action and specific practice. Gains are always small and accrue over time… a theme you may have heard before.

Home Friend is stepping up? [FR]

I have been seeing less of Ms. Slav lately, and (a little) more of the girl I named “Home Friend.” Ms. Slav seems to be intensely dating one or two women… which is great and all that, but not of interest to me. One of the women is in the scene and is just not that attractive or appealing to me; I’ve known her for years and always found her a little off, but Ms. Slav seems enchanted by her. She’s not terrible looking, probably a high 6, but I don’t get that kick from her. Ms. Slav seems to be a true bisexual, which is not very common. And she’s having some family issues, etc. Amazing how family issues seem to crop up AFTER a couple weeks of flakiness… they never seem to precede the flakiness.

Back to the point, I got an out-of-the-blue message from Home Friend last week, and I arranged for her to come around last Sunday afternoon for some extremely intense, pleasurable sex. So far Home Friend and I have barely seen each other, except for pure sex dates. Did some drinks a while ago, before the threesomes, and then she shifted into texting me when she’s horny. I’ve tried to up-shift her into showing up more often but failed. Home Friend also seems to know that I’m trying to fit her in among other chicks (Ms. Slav, Peaches, kind of Low-cut top girl (although she is not as hot as I’d like), one or two occasionals). Home Friend seems to want a boyfriend, but a boyfriend on her terms, which she is not getting. She is also somewhat shy and reserved, so I think the only guys she’s getting are the ones who have the self-regard to pursue her vigorously. If they’re pursuing her vigorously, they’re probably pursuing other girls vigorously, too. Smart girls who want boyfriends/relationships learn to make the first move, as that can allow them to acquire guys who might be more loyal than the guys brave enough to chase them down and spear them.

I digress, so last Sunday she re-appeared, we f**ked, I had a blast. I’m seeing more chicks, of the wrong sort, than I would like, so there is that… but “make hay while the sun is shining,” etc. I also don’t have access-on-command to super young hot chicks, so when one happens along I try to prioritize her, as I did for a while w/ Ms. Slav. A guy never knows when his last really young hot chick will happen… it is conceivable that Ms. Slav and Home Friend are my last in their age brackets.

So that was last week. Home Friend came around on Saturday night… I need to write about last week and then Saturday. Last week she said I was “cold.” I’ve heard variants on that idea before, so it’s probably true… I laughed and told her that it takes a special kind of girl to really warm me up and open me up. A good response, I thought. I believe Home Friend is seeking a boyfriend and not finding one. She can find guys she doesn’t like and she can find guys who will use her casual sex, but she can’t combine the two.

Saturday night was cozier. I told her that I want to bring her and Ms. Slav together to a sex party. Home Friend seems to be just a little interested, but not enough for me to push it. Ms. Slav has talked to her quite a bit about group sex, and Home Friend isn’t going for it. That is okay with me. Not all girls go for it. Home Friend might be more amenable in a couple years, when she has more experience. She’s also away from home and does not have Ms. Slav’s boldness. Or, it seems, Ms. Slav’s IQ. Home Friend is a lot more normal, except for the way she is hanging out with outliers like Ms. Slav and me.

Home Friend also switched out her IUD, as she had a Mirena IUD that is smaller and narrower but slowly releases hormones, and now she has a Paragard IUD that is pure copper. It means she has heavier periods but also a stronger sex drive. That might mean I see more of her. Though it might be better for me to see less of her. It is hard to choose to do the things I need to do, when a girl like Home Friend is happy to be bent over by me.

With Home Friend, the trade off for her IUD seems to be heavier/worse periods but a return to her more natural sex cycle, so when she’s ovulating she is off-the-charts horny, as seemed to happen last week. Many chicks with libido problems experience libido problems due to drugs (anti-depressants, etc.) or due to their birth control. For that reason it’s important to encourage chicks, especially young and dumb chicks, to adjust their BC if the first one they try doesn’t work for them.

This is also why you never know what you’re going to get when you approach chicks. You may approach a chick who is feeling fat and bloated from PMS or her period. She is not interested in men at that moment. You may approach a girl who is ovulating and receptive. The same girl may be receptive one day and totally closed off two weeks later, based on nothing in your control. That’s also why men need to be non-reactive to female emotional outbursts… chicks have intense feelings that many chicks are bad at controlling. If you put two combustible, emotional people together, they tend to explode and break up.

Home Friend has not been much willing to make advance plans. Probably because she is playing the field. She may also just be spacey. I think she’s just using me for some light casual sex, although she seems to come quite hard and be pretty into me when we’re together. She might also be holding back because she can sense me holding back.

This story might be a little disjointed because I’ve been writing it like one paragraph at a time, since last Sunday or Monday. Something or other keeps coming up.

Funny, but evil

I was on Facebook (a mistake) and read one of those horrible rants by a “male feminist” saying that we should “believe all women,” and I got an idea: every male feminist who writes that all women should be believed, etc. should have an anonymous denunciation of him posted online. Then it should be circulated, particularly at his workplace.

If this is done routinely, we’ll quickly get rid of all the male feminists who say things like, “If you’re not guilty, you have nothing to hide.”

Players know about the concept of the misguided “white knight.” This could be a form of “black knighting.”

You cannot fight the current level of feminist irrationality regarding anonymous denunciation with rational argument (although maybe there are a few green shoots). When virtually every guy who is a male feminist b***h has an anonymous accusation out there, against him, we might see the value of those denunciations fall.

I have seriously thought about doing this with one guy in particular. The fact that it is evil stops me. The fact that he is a b***h tempts me. I am not advocating that this be done. But as a thought experiment it is interesting, right?

Garbage post about ranking chicks

Guys love numerical rankings and arguing over differences in rank, and we apply our natural inclination towards women: thus the well-known “Hot Babe” (HB) scale, although fortunately most guys aren’t so anti-social that they say “HB.” She just a “7” or maybe “low 7” or “high 7.”

To my mind, chicks below a 5 aren’t even noticeable, typically because they’re grossly fat or just old or have something else seriously messed up about them. A 5 is usually fat, old, or both, but has something redeeming that makes her of faint sexual interest. You’d probably want to deny f**king a 5 to your buddies, but she’s not impossible. A 6 is okay. There’s typically something off about her, but you’ve probably done worse (I’ve done worse). If you’re in a drought or you’re sexually inexperienced, 6s might be great for you. Today, I have been turning down marginal notches, but as a younger guy I picked up quite a few marginal notches and that was the right/smart thing to do, simply to build up my experience with women and sexual skills. There is probably something alluring about a 6, so you should find that thing and focus on it, especially if you’re inexperienced.

While there are obviously exceptions, inexperienced guys often build up to high 7s, 8s, or 9s. How do you build experience as a guy? You sleep with more chicks. The more chicks you sleep with, the more you realize chicks are just humans too and the better you understand female psychology. Chicks can also sense the desperation that comes off guys who don’t get laid. If there are no chicks good enough for you, then you are either in an all-boys school, on a Navy warship, in prison, or in some other kind of military situation. For guys in normal social situations, there are going to be some chicks around who are or should be “good enough” for you.

7s are average cute girls. You’re happy to nail them. There are a huge number of 7s around. There’s something distinctly attractive about a 7, and that something can be variable. Often it’s just youth and/or being height-weight proportionate.

8s are like 7s but with good proportions. Nothing is out of place. Her face is nice. Very few 8s persist past age 30. 8s are also uncommon (maybe they are more common in Eastern Europe). I just don’t have access to many 8s, and I’m pretty suspicious of most guys online who say they’re routinely getting with 8s. That’s not impossible, especially for a good-looking social guy in college, just not real likely.

9s are like 8s but with ideal, hourglass proportions, youth, and a pretty, symmetrical face. Very few 9s persist past age 25 or 26. 9s are rare. If a guy claims to be regularly dating a bevy of 9s, he has an inflated sense of value or is himself very rare, like a high-level entertainer, etc.

10s… can’t change a thing. Not sure they really exist. I’ve heard guys say, “a 10 is just an 8 or 9 you haven’t f**ked.” Makes sense to me.

Most of the chicks I’ve been with have been 7s. Cute chicks I’m happy to be with but not all that special in pure looks terms.

In my view, you can’t properly rank/rate a chick till you’ve seen her nude. I’ve seen hundreds, maybe thousands, of chicks nude, live in person (have not f**ked the vast majority of them, but I have seen them via sex clubs). Clothed chicks can go either way… sometimes up a point or two because they’re wearing baggy/unflattering clothes, or are just tight all round, or sometimes the opposite way, because they’re wearing flattering clothes, push-up bras, etc. I’ve initially thought a chick is a basic 7 only to find a high 8 underneath those clothes and I love that feeling. Opposite happens too, though.

How a chick looks is also correlated with but not perfectly linear with sexual chemistry. I’ve found high 6s and low 7s with whom I have better sexual chemistry than 8s. Obviously it’s very satisfying to f**k a really hot chick. Some guys also say really hot chicks are worse in bed… I may have once believed that, but as I became more sexually dominant with practice, I stopped believed it, as now I tell a girl where to go and what to do. If she’s on her knees or bent over a couch, with a handful of her hair in my fist, she will likely perform just fine. Better yet, I don’t tell her what to do, I pick her up and put her where I want her. Or I tie her up, put cuffs on her, blindfold her, and play with her until she’s in a deep sexual state. It’s been a while since I’ve had truly bad sex. To me, bad sex used to happen when I was uncertain and the girl was uncertain, inexperienced, etc. Just being dominant and directive is not enough to ensure GREAT sex, but it can bring almost any acceptable girl up to “pretty good.” I think chicks know / can sense this. Chicks like it when they can tell the guy just sort of expects to get laid, but, at the same time, he’s not real bothered if he doesn’t. He’ll get the chick next time, or, if she wanders off, he’ll get someone else. That’s the right attitude to have. Not demanding, but lightly worn expectation. I can’t precisely describe how to cultivate this aura.