Boredom = death, when it comes to chicks that is. This chick is f**king some guy who is nice but boring, “We had sex. He’s always very tender. It’s always slow and nice. I can come easily, so I always orgasm, but I can’t say it’s from his moves, which are pretty green.” Plus, he’s weak, if you translate from chick-speak, “He’s just so kind and thoughtful. Which brings me to my one hesitation about Ben … Sometimes I worry I’m not excited enough by him.”
This guy needs to both up his game and find a chick with slightly lower SMV. The woman just broke up with a doctor she names Drew, “When Drew and I were together, we would go away most weekends. I was always dying to be with him. Like, panting for him. With Ben, it couldn’t be more opposite. I feel Zen. I wouldn’t call it ‘blah’; it’s more like calm.” She knows her SMV is at risk from aging, “He was a resident, and she was one of the nurses. This happened a year ago, when I turned 30. It killed me. It still kills me. Sometimes at work I look at his Instagram page and try to analyze it. Is he with the nurse?”, but she doesn’t act that way. Probably his nurse is a little younger and also more economically functional.
The chick in the story is probably not a good earner, “Work was tedious. I had to present a bunch of new products to the owner of the shop, who is nice but intense. She had a lot of questions. I was not my best self. Get me home to bed!”, and “Drew” knows it. I have said this in various places, but when it comes to long-term relationships, the chick’s qualities aside from “hot” and “willing” become important. Seduction advice focuses on the short term, but for longer term relationships a woman’s qualities outside her rack, her backside, and her oral skills gain in importance. The chick in the story doesn’t seem like she has much of anything that contributes to the household apart from her p***y. That’s fine for short-term, but for a lot of guys p***y is, if not a commodity, then available, and character, earning, cooking, etc. are not. Guys look for “full package,” and “Drew” was either bored of her, or looking at a more functional woman, or could be both.
It’s strange to me that more women are not working to move themselves out of the “commodity p***y” and into the “special girl” category. This woman is not doing that, and she’s suffering because of it. Feminism has set up a highly competitive sexual marketplace, and many women have not properly internalized this fact either.
Lesson for guys is simple, don’t be f**king boring, and if you are, a lot of chicks who are on the younger and hotter side of things will next you.
I have some non-mainstream methods of not being boring.
I was in a coffee shop today in Budapest and noticed a lovely and attractive woman in a red dress preening and admiring herself while her portly husband sat and ate.
Before they left, I made a comment to the waitress about them and told her I’d tell her my observation after they left.
They left.
“Did you seen how bored she was?” I remarked to the waitress.
“Of course, I used to be that woman in the red dress. Totally bored out of my mind.”
We got to talking and she admitted she was … now 21, had been engaged when she was 18, and ended the relationship from boredom.
I got her details and asked her out for a drink. “Don’t worry, you’ll never feel like her when you’re with me.” Super cheesy but it worked.
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Cool story and good work on the blog.
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This could be very well be the number one rule in game…don’t let her get bored.
Roissy said it as good as anyone (quote below) but honestly the common root of game is keeping a girl in an emotional state (= not bored). This includes positives and negatives:
“IX. Connect with her emotions
Set yourself apart from other men and connect with a woman’s emotional landscape. Her mind is an alien world that requires deft navigation to reach your rendevous. Frolic in the surf of emotions rather than the arid desert of logic. Be playful. Employ all your senses. Describe in lush detail scenarios to set her heart afire. Give your feelings freedom to roam. ROAM. Yes, that is a good word. You’re not on a linear path with her. You are ROAMING all over, taking her on an adventure. In this world, there is no need to finish thoughts or draw conclusions. There is only need to EXPERIENCE. You’re grabbing her hand and running with her down an infinite, labyrinthine alleyway with no end, laughing and letting your fingers glide on the cobblestone walls along the way.
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There’s also an element of needing to find someone who matches your level. I have met chicks who want to go out 5+ nights per week and I have met chicks who are basically hermits. Trick is getting someone who is compatible.
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Nice writeup and analysis. Am glad that you posted this.
“Lesson for guys is simple, don’t be f**king boring, and if you are, a lot of chicks who are on the younger and hotter side of things will next you.”
It’s a hard hard habit to break. And once you break it, then it can be hard to return to providing enough comfort and security to keep things going smoothly, and not have her wreck herself. Athol Kay had some good suggestions, if I recall correctly, for how guys in a regular relationship can be arbitrary, dominant, playful and keeping a girl guessing in the sort of inconsequential areas that women spend their days thinking about (sex, food, entertainment…) while still providing real safety and security in the ways that actually matter. Like life insurance, home security, retirement income… all those things that chicks don’t care to think about. (They want the security, they just don’t want to be asked to think about it.)
“This guy needs to both up his game and find a chick with slightly lower SMV”
He definitely needs to up his game. The guy is a given, no mystery. And his frame is ‘how can I please you?’ As for finding a chick with lower SMV, maybe, or maybe not. He may just need a chick who isn’t a carousel addict. They do exist. Problem is those chicks don’t spend a lot of time in bars, aren’t on tinder, and are pretty much all married or engaged by 24 or 25. The guy is likely early to mid 30s, ok financially but not rich. The 30s single women market is over-saturated with crazy.
I think that if the guy can get her home and into his bed with zero game, whether by accident or just being in the right place when she got dumped and needed a guy – that says that his basic SMV is pretty good. It overcame a complete lack of game. I think he could trade up if could change his attitude to ‘How are you going to please me today, mistress mine?’
Sadly, thats a maddeningly difficult change to make.
“It’s strange to me that more women are not working to move themselves out of the “commodity p***y” and into the “special girl” category.”
Shakespeare once wrote a play about how that could happen. I’m fairly certain that chicks can’t do it on their own. Not within the laws of physics I suspect.
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>. It’s a hard hard habit to break. And once you break it, then it can be hard to return to providing enough comfort and security to keep things going smoothly, and not have her wreck herself.
Yes. It’s the comfort test versus shit test thing. Most guys never get to the comfort test so they don’t realize it exists.
Sort of like how keyboard warriors rightly say that it’s bad to give women gifts or similar early on… but it can be very powerful to give them EARNED gifts https://theredquest.wordpress.com/2017/05/24/intermediate-to-advanced-game-valentines-day-is-coming-up-that-can-be-a-comfort-test.
Which Shakespeare play?
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“It’s strange to me that more women are not working to move themselves out of the “commodity p***y” and into the “special girl” category.”
>>”Shakespeare once wrote a play about how that could happen. I’m fairly certain that chicks can’t do it on their own. Not within the laws of physics I suspect.”
I 100% agree with Alchemist. I don’t think women are capable of making intentional change when it comes to the sexual marketplace, dating, etc. Probably this is the result of never having to do anything to get dick–most women can be completely passive when it comes to dating and sex and guys will approach them, or they can match on SOD, or whatever. The point is that since she became a sexual being, she never had to work or think about getting guys, aside from learning to put on makeup, staying in shape, basically being pretty or as pretty as she can be.
This is why you see chicks freak out when they hit around 27+ and start to hit the wall, realizing that they’re not as attractive as they used to be and that fewer and fewer guys of lower and lower quality are what she’s left with. But does she adjust? Some do and opt to settle with a beta guy who makes good cash, but more often these days it seems they don’t. They just get more picky, bitter, and complain until at some point they just give up.
It just makes me appreciate how lucky we are to be men, because being a man means you struggle. Nothing comes easy, even if you’re super good looking and have a phenomenal physique–you still have to put yourself out there, ask girls out, make the first move, deal with rejection, etc. I think our society underestimates or doesn’t even realize how different it is growing up and navigating the world depending on your gender.
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I would say this: boring = full tilt K selection.
I will not regurgitate the red pill /r/K selection – female nature stuff. We all know the fundamentals and the theories/facts – although if you are boring, you by default enter the provider frame and hence you are evaluated into just provider SMV parameters (wealth, willing to raise kids)
I think chicks barely improve their SMV because they are the gate keepers of sex, think about it (and allow me a wide stretch here but follow me to my point) chicks are like the taxi business:
Shitty service, terrible cars, scold drivers, getting conned with crazy routes and hidden charges, queue at hotspots (did anybody queued 1 hour in freezing snow outside the airport because the drivers were taking purposefully longer routes to let the meter go wild?
But until UBER came out and proved an UPGRADE, the taxi industry didn’t think even for a second to improve, why?
We are the gate keepers of transportation -period.
It’s either us or us, just stay at home and wank on the sofa (in both worlds, really) if ain’t gonna pay us.
Sure you can find other ways (getting expensive limos and taking the shitty bus service) but will have to rely always on us if you don’t have already your car (and paid for it) (hire expensive escorts – bang 2’s – be married and pay for sex and reproduction)
You would have noticed this when chicks suddenly have competition from other women all of the sudden- like in the EU with the Schengen agreements, all of the sudden you had beautiful women roaming around Europe – the Italian chicks had to compete with Hungarians – The Spaniards with Czech – and the feedback was: these women from East are all sluts, attracted to wealth, con artists with pooozey – Our men (that have higher SMV than theirs) should lvoe us because we are for real – just massive lolz.
That’s the SMV competition leveling it’s field and forcing “upgrades” outside of the pooozey commodity – until you have an external disruptive force – no change on scale happens.
I know somebody would argue that market forces are not applied to Biology – but aren’t we talking about MARKET VALUE? Of course, I would love to be wrong, but still..
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