I’m sure that some of you read #8 in “Why so many women cheat on their husbands” and were like, “LOL What? No.” That’s okay, it’s cool. It’s not for everybody. But I’m surprised I’ve not read any of the better game writers confront this subject. Lots write about threeways (there are a bunch of stories about them in Tom Torero’s very good book Daygame) but none I think have gone this far. Am I missing a game writer who has gone this road? If I have shoot me a comment.
So I wrote more about non-monogamy on Reddit, replying to a comment, and I forgot to copy it here:
This one is harder, but in my opinion it’s more honest. About a quarter of girls dump me or flat out refuse when I mention it. About a quarter are gung-ho. About half are ambivalent. I don’t think it’s wise to bring it up until you’ve been sleeping together for a while and she’s firmly converted into your frame. Three very good sex sessions is a rule of thumb for strong conversion, but every guy must learn for himself what this means. Some girls are also fundamentally non-monogamous in a masculine sort of way and they will never be deeply converted. Some guys don’t want to recognize this but it’s true.
So I bring up the game and non-monogamy thing because Neil Strauss’s Game sequel, The Truth (a great book you should also read even if you disagree with the end), has him exploring non-monogamy:
I look up and see a yoga stud from Kamala’s pod.
“Have you rounded up any more girls?” the orbiter asks him.
Kamala Devi and Shamal Helena said polyamory was about loving relationships, not casual sex. But these guys seem more like next-level pickup artists, coming to these conferences with the intention of sucking any available women into their powerful reality.
“These guys seem more like next-level pickup artists:” let that sink in.
I personally have never seen attractive polyamorous people. But I have seen lots of attractive open relationship people, and when the guy is driving it can be very powerful. Granted, some of the girls in that scene are more psycho than average. The people deepest in, I stay away from. But some of them are fantastic. Remember that there is no escape from frame or SMV. If the former is strong and the latter is high it can be next-level game.
I’ve not written comprehensively about open relationships and game but I did talk about them in Women want to follow your lead: a story about a woman presenting two ways.
When I have time I will write more. Guys who are doing right are trading hot women. That’s it. Value for value. Obviously people try to defect but defectors can be punished.
Later add: Commenter Magnum says this guy Blackdragon writes about it. Will check his stuff out.